Well, it’s elastic. I see. But without max-width this is damn annoying because you can’t rescale text without getting horizontal scrollbars. And sometimes some may want to increase the size. His monitor or resolution will not, probably.
(I saw this coming.) I thought of adding a custom field to differentiate the elastic sites from liquid ones, but I’m hoping everyone will just get the message, eventually. I’ll probably add a little note to the logo.
As for the issue of max-width, I know what you mean. I brought the issue up to WSG list and there were mixed opinions on whether or not an elastic layout should have a max-width. Some said it was better, at very large text-sizes, to give a horizontal scrollbar, at least as far as accessibility and usability are concerned; it’s sort of the difference between using a big map with a small window as opposed to confining the map to a very narrow column.
Bottom line is there is no consensus on whether or not an elastic layout should have a max-width. If you ask me, I’ll tell you to add max-width:100% but it’s a matter of preference. As such, I’m not going to reject an elastic site that doesn’t use it, just as I don’t reject liquid sites without max-width.
Most user have resolutions from 800px up to 2500px (some with nice Apple 30″). But that’s it. No one uses larger resolutions and if some does it’s a beamer or tv wall.
And in larger resolutions people normaly don’t use the whole area for the browser. The extra space is needed for iTunes, Icons, etc. Most keep it on 1000-1500px.
But many times, after working ten hours, I need bigger font-size, because my eyes are tired. And I really hate to resize my browser or scroll.
Elastic is some strange kind of “control” mixed with some usability. For those designers who don’t like to loose controll.
That’s why I really hate elastic without max-width.
Hi,
Thanks for adding my site to the list, much appreciated.
@Peter: I understand what you’re saying. My reason for not adding it is that IE does not support it, but when I think of it that’s a bad reason. Lets give the ~50% (actual statistics) using standards based browsers a little better experience. I’m adding max-width in.
@Emil: Thank you, that’s nice I hope more elastic designs would do. Most IE user do not resize their fonts (most probably don’t know they could).
And it don’t affects the IE (IMHO), if max-width/min-width is set, IE just doesn’t understand it.
This is not liquid or fluid or something. It’s fixed…
Comment by Peter — January 31, 2006 @ 1:14 pm
Well, it’s elastic. I see. But without max-width this is damn annoying because you can’t rescale text without getting horizontal scrollbars. And sometimes some may want to increase the size. His monitor or resolution will not, probably.
Comment by Peter — January 31, 2006 @ 1:20 pm
(I saw this coming.) I thought of adding a custom field to differentiate the elastic sites from liquid ones, but I’m hoping everyone will just get the message, eventually. I’ll probably add a little note to the logo.
As for the issue of max-width, I know what you mean. I brought the issue up to WSG list and there were mixed opinions on whether or not an elastic layout should have a max-width. Some said it was better, at very large text-sizes, to give a horizontal scrollbar, at least as far as accessibility and usability are concerned; it’s sort of the difference between using a big map with a small window as opposed to confining the map to a very narrow column.
Bottom line is there is no consensus on whether or not an elastic layout should have a max-width. If you ask me, I’ll tell you to add max-width:100% but it’s a matter of preference. As such, I’m not going to reject an elastic site that doesn’t use it, just as I don’t reject liquid sites without max-width.
Comment by C Montoya — January 31, 2006 @ 1:34 pm
Most user have resolutions from 800px up to 2500px (some with nice Apple 30″). But that’s it. No one uses larger resolutions and if some does it’s a beamer or tv wall.
And in larger resolutions people normaly don’t use the whole area for the browser. The extra space is needed for iTunes, Icons, etc. Most keep it on 1000-1500px.
But many times, after working ten hours, I need bigger font-size, because my eyes are tired. And I really hate to resize my browser or scroll.
Elastic is some strange kind of “control” mixed with some usability. For those designers who don’t like to loose controll.
That’s why I really hate elastic without max-width.
“There is no such thing like control.”
Comment by Peter — January 31, 2006 @ 2:10 pm
Hi,
Thanks for adding my site to the list, much appreciated.
@Peter: I understand what you’re saying. My reason for not adding it is that IE does not support it, but when I think of it that’s a bad reason. Lets give the ~50% (actual statistics) using standards based browsers a little better experience. I’m adding max-width in.
Comment by Emil Stenström — January 31, 2006 @ 2:20 pm
@Emil: Thank you, that’s nice
I hope more elastic designs would do. Most IE user do not resize their fonts (most probably don’t know they could).
And it don’t affects the IE (IMHO), if max-width/min-width is set, IE just doesn’t understand it.
Comment by Peter — February 1, 2006 @ 1:26 am
@Peter: Yeah, I know it doesn’t affect IE, you don’t build a site like mine without stumbling over about 1000 IE bugs and fixing them
Comment by Emil Stenström — February 3, 2006 @ 3:24 pm